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Back to top SDGranny Famous, Really really famous Joined: 19 Feb 2007 Posts: 1144 Location: South Dakota Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 12:16 pm    Post subject: Re: Harry Potter JWChitown wrote: I have the live feeds, so I guess I have always been interested in the spoilers. It is rumored that spoilers are out for the new HP book due to be released at the end of this week. Anyone interested in Harry Potter? Did anyone catch any of the spoilers before they were pulled off the internet? I REALLY would like to know. I heard about the spoilers but it happened while I was at work so didn't see anything. The reporters that knew were not sharing. Are you going to stand in line at midnight or did you pre-order? _________________ In three words I can sum up everything I've learned about life: it goes on...Robert Frost Back to top Frances Famous, and Good-Looking Too Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 5054 Location: Inside my head Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 12:24 pm    Post subject: Please, I beg of you, anyone that knows about any real spoilers post them here!!!!!!!! _________________ "It isn't that I don't like you, Susan, because after all, in moments of quiet, I'm strangely drawn toward you; but, well, there haven't been any quiet moments! Bringing Up Baby-Cary Grant Back to top JWChitown Moderator Joined: 19 Feb 2007 Posts: 2609 Location: Chicagoland - Go Olympics 2016! Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 12:31 pm    Post subject: I pre-ordered. It is hard for me to get a lot of reading in during work, unlike folks being unaware of my BB internet action. Working on my computer is much easier than having a book open on my desk. This is the time I wish I could get an online version Then I could sit and read at my computer and fake out everyone. They'd think I was working. I do make myself look like I am getting paid for nothing, don't I? I do work through lunch and bring home things to work on while I am watching a show or the BB feeds. I also give help to our West Coast reps from home. So, believe it or not, I do have a work ethic. _________________ .............. You can't control the wind, but you can adjust your sails. Back to top SDGranny Famous, Really really famous Joined: 19 Feb 2007 Posts: 1144 Location: South Dakota Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 12:35 pm    Post subject: JWChitown wrote: I pre-ordered. It is hard for me to get a lot of reading in during work, unlike folks being unaware of my BB internet action. Working on my computer is much easier than having a book open on my desk. This is the time I wish I could get an online version Then I could sit and read at my computer and fake out everyone. They'd think I was working. I do make myself look like I am getting paid for nothing, don't I? I do work through lunch and bring home things to work on while I am watching a show or the BB feeds. I also give help to our West Coast reps from home. So, believe it or not, I do have a work ethic. That's what they all say J/K If I could get on at work I would but I work for the state and they really monitor internet use. Besides the kind of computer work I do takes my whole screen and the program is not in windows. _________________ In three words I can sum up everything I've learned about life: it goes on...Robert Frost Back to top jfan Famous, Really really famous Joined: 03 Mar 2007 Posts: 1246 Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 12:46 pm    Post subject: Yes, I am a big Harry Potter fan and I may disappear for a while this weekend when the final book comes out. Yes, someone took pictures of every page in the "book" and posted it on the net. Some people believe it is the real book; others believe it is a hoax. Actually there are two different "books" out there with pictures (though the second one only has a few pages here and there out on the net). Now the two books out there have radically different epilogues so they both can't be real. I don't have links because they are taken down as fast as they go up. Possible spoilers follow so if you don't want to know ... don't read. Book 1 - things I have heard THe Deathly Hallows are three magical items of great importance - the elder's wand, a resurrection stone that was in Slytherin's ring, and Harry's invisibility cloak. Voldemort tortures Ron by making him think that Hermione loves Harry. Harry sees this and reassures Ron that he and Hermione have a brother/sister relationship. Harry does kiss Ginny again on his birthday but Ginny is not involved in most of the book. However, Harry spends lots of time thinking about her and worrying about her. Snape is a good guy who didn't really kill Dumbledore and the reason Dumbledore trusted him is because he loved Lily. Because of Snape's unrequited love for Lily, his patronus is the same as Lily's was - a doe. Also they knew each other before going to Hogwarts. Voldemort is defeated but Harry doesn't actually kill him. The epilogue is 19 years later when Harry and Ginny are sending their son, Albus Severus, off to Hogwarts (they also have kids names James and Lily). Apparently, Snape has gone on to be a Headmaster at Hogwarts. Also, Ron and Hermione have two kids, Hugo and Rose. Apparently Lupin and Tonks also have a kid named Teddy and Bill and Fleur a daughter named Vittoire. Book 2 - things I have heard Ginny sacrifices her own life to save Harry. In the epilogue, Ron is Headmaster of Hogwarts and is married to Gabrielle Delacour. I have no idea if any of this from either supposed book is true. But obviously both Ginny stories and both epilogues can't be. _________________ Back to top JWChitown Moderator Joined: 19 Feb 2007 Posts: 2609 Location: Chicagoland - Go Olympics 2016! Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 12:49 pm    Post subject: SDGranny wrote: JWChitown wrote: I pre-ordered. It is hard for me to get a lot of reading in during work, unlike folks being unaware of my BB internet action. Working on my computer is much easier than having a book open on my desk. This is the time I wish I could get an online version Then I could sit and read at my computer and fake out everyone. They'd think I was working. I do make myself look like I am getting paid for nothing, don't I? I do work through lunch and bring home things to work on while I am watching a show or the BB feeds. I also give help to our West Coast reps from home. So, believe it or not, I do have a work ethic. That's what they all say J/K If I could get on at work I would but I work for the state and they really monitor internet use. Besides the kind of computer work I do takes my whole screen and the program is not in windows. I work on a couple of programs like that. They are still in Unix and archaic to work with. When using those, I need to close Windows down and get on with the show, so to speak. Thursday mornings are the time I have scheduled for doing my work there. And sometimes my boss has me go in and pull reports at odd times. My fingers fly across the keyboard to pull the paperwork I need so I can get out of there. Everyone who has witnessed me pulling the files from there laughs at me. They wonder if I really know the information I am pulling. _________________ .............. You can't control the wind, but you can adjust your sails. Back to top SDGranny Famous, Really really famous Joined: 19 Feb 2007 Posts: 1144 Location: South Dakota Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 1:11 pm    Post subject: JWChitown wrote: SDGranny wrote: JWChitown wrote: I pre-ordered. It is hard for me to get a lot of reading in during work, unlike folks being unaware of my BB internet action. Working on my computer is much easier than having a book open on my desk. This is the time I wish I could get an online version Then I could sit and read at my computer and fake out everyone. They'd think I was working. I do make myself look like I am getting paid for nothing, don't I? I do work through lunch and bring home things to work on while I am watching a show or the BB feeds. I also give help to our West Coast reps from home. So, believe it or not, I do have a work ethic. That's what they all say J/K If I could get on at work I would but I work for the state and they really monitor internet use. Besides the kind of computer work I do takes my whole screen and the program is not in windows. I work on a couple of programs like that. They are still in Unix and archaic to work with. When using those, I need to close Windows down and get on with the show, so to speak. Thursday mornings are the time I have scheduled for doing my work there. And sometimes my boss has me go in and pull reports at odd times. My fingers fly across the keyboard to pull the paperwork I need so I can get out of there. Everyone who has witnessed me pulling the files from there laughs at me. They wonder if I really know the information I am pulling. _________________ In three words I can sum up everything I've learned about life: it goes on...Robert Frost Back to top Frances Famous, and Good-Looking Too Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 5054 Location: Inside my head Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 1:13 pm    Post subject: Thank you so much for the heads up jfan! Even though we don't know if any of it is true, it's nice to know what all the buzz is about. _________________ "It isn't that I don't like you, Susan, because after all, in moments of quiet, I'm strangely drawn toward you; but, well, there haven't been any quiet moments! Bringing Up Baby-Cary Grant Back to top Xena Famous, Really really famous Joined: 22 Feb 2007 Posts: 1517 Location: Fantasy Land Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 1:26 pm    Post subject: Ohhhh....interesting! Thanks for the scoopage, jfan. I preordered the book, but I'm 2 volumes behind. Doh! _________________ "It is better to be hated for who you are, than to be loved for someone you are not." ~ Andre Gide Back to top JWChitown Moderator Joined: 19 Feb 2007 Posts: 2609 Location: Chicagoland - Go Olympics 2016! Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 1:26 pm    Post subject: jfan wrote: Yes, I am a big Harry Potter fan and I may disappear for a while this weekend when the final book comes out. Yes, someone took pictures of every page in the "book" and posted it on the net. Some people believe it is the real book; others believe it is a hoax. Actually there are two different "books" out there with pictures (though the second one only has a few pages here and there out on the net). Now the two books out there have radically different epilogues so they both can't be real. I don't have links because they are taken down as fast as they go up. Possible spoilers follow so if you don't want to know ... don't read. Book 1 - things I have heard THe Deathly Hallows are three magical items of great importance - the elder's wand, a resurrection stone that was in Slytherin's ring, and Harry's invisibility cloak. Voldemort tortures Ron by making him think that Hermione loves Harry. Harry sees this and reassures Ron that he and Hermione have a brother/sister relationship. Harry does kiss Ginny again on his birthday but Ginny is not involved in most of the book. However, Harry spends lots of time thinking about her and worrying about her. Snape is a good guy who didn't really kill Dumbledore and the reason Dumbledore trusted him is because he loved Lily. Because of Snape's unrequited love for Lily, his patronus is the same as Lily's was - a doe. Also they knew each other before going to Hogwarts. Voldemort is defeated but Harry doesn't actually kill him. The epilogue is 19 years later when Harry and Ginny are sending their son, Albus Severus, off to Hogwarts (they also have kids names James and Lily). Apparently, Snape has gone on to be a Headmaster at Hogwarts. Also, Ron and Hermione have two kids, Hugo and Rose. Apparently Lupin and Tonks also have a kid named Teddy and Bill and Fleur a daughter named Vittoire. Book 2 - things I have heard Ginny sacrifices her own life to save Harry. In the epilogue, Ron is Headmaster of Hogwarts and is married to Gabrielle Delacour. I have no idea if any of this from either supposed book is true. But obviously both Ginny stories and both epilogues can't be. Thanks for the update. If you hear more, let us know. _________________ .............. You can't control the wind, but you can adjust your sails. Back to top jfan Famous, Really really famous Joined: 03 Mar 2007 Posts: 1246 Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 2:45 pm    Post subject: Okay here is a review from the Baltimore Sun - spoilers in the review. http://www.baltimoresun.com/entertainment/booksmags/bal-2potter0718,0,2741335.story?coll=bal-investing-headlines _________________ Back to top ShoelessJoe Joined: 21 Mar 2007 Posts: 3 Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 6:54 pm    Post subject: I, too, have been eagerly awaiting the final book of the Harry Potter series. I am both excited and sad. Excited because I will finally know the whole story, sad because this brillant story will come to an end. I have tried to stay away from the speculation and rumours however that is very hard when everyone is talking about it. I have heard two different rumours on who dies in this book. I don't think anybody, aside from J.K. Rowling and the publishers, know the whole story. So, any rumours, so-called spoilers, foilers, and speculation should be taken with a grain of salt. That said, I really hope you all enjoy reading this final chapter of Harry Potter. I know I will!!! Happy Reading! Back to top Frances Famous, and Good-Looking Too Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 5054 Location: Inside my head Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 7:44 pm    Post subject: ShoelessJoe wrote: I, too, have been eagerly awaiting the final book of the Harry Potter series. I am both excited and sad. Excited because I will finally know the whole story, sad because this brillant story will come to an end. I have tried to stay away from the speculation and rumours however that is very hard when everyone is talking about it. I have heard two different rumours on who dies in this book. I don't think anybody, aside from J.K. Rowling and the publishers, know the whole story. So, any rumours, so-called spoilers, foilers, and speculation should be taken with a grain of salt. That said, I really hope you all enjoy reading this final chapter of Harry Potter. I know I will!!! Happy Reading! Welcome ShoelessJoe! I've always loved your name and I'm glad you came out to post...Happy Reading to you also. _________________ "It isn't that I don't like you, Susan, because after all, in moments of quiet, I'm strangely drawn toward you; but, well, there haven't been any quiet moments! Bringing Up Baby-Cary Grant Back to top jfan Famous, Really really famous Joined: 03 Mar 2007 Posts: 1246 Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 7:18 am    Post subject: Here is the New York Times Review - it is good without giving away much of the plot. http://www.nytimes.com/2007/07/19/books/19potter.html Quote: An Epic Showdown as Harry Potter Is Initiated Into Adulthood By MICHIKO KAKUTANI Published: July 19, 2007 So, here it is at last: The final confrontation between Harry Potter, the Boy Who Lived, the Chosen One, the “symbol of hope” for both the Wizard and Muggle worlds, and Lord Voldemort, He Who Must Not Be Named, the nefarious leader of the Death Eaters and would-be ruler of all. Good versus Evil. Love versus Hate. The Seeker versus the Dark Lord. HARRY POTTER AND THE DEATHLY HALLOWS By J. K. Rowling. Illustrations by Mary GrandPré 759 pages. Arthur A. Levine Books/Scholastic. $34.99. J. K. Rowling’s monumental, spellbinding epic, 10 years in the making, is deeply rooted in traditional literature and Hollywood sagas — from the Greek myths to Dickens and Tolkien to “Star Wars.” And true to its roots, it ends not with modernist, “Soprano”-esque equivocation, but with good old-fashioned closure: a big-screen, heart-racing, bone-chilling confrontation and an epilogue that clearly lays out people’s fates. Getting to the finish line is not seamless — the last part of “Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows,” the seventh and final book in the series, has some lumpy passages of exposition and a couple of clunky detours — but the overall conclusion and its determination of the main characters’ story lines possess a convincing inevitability that make some of the prepublication speculation seem curiously blinkered in retrospect. With each installment, the “Potter” series has grown increasingly dark, and this volume — a copy of which was purchased at a New York City store yesterday, though the book is embargoed for release until 12:01 a.m. on Saturday — is no exception. While Ms. Rowling’s astonishingly limber voice still moves effortlessly between Ron’s adolescent sarcasm and Harry’s growing solemnity, from youthful exuberance to more philosophical gravity, “Deathly Hallows” is, for the most part, a somber book that marks Harry’s final initiation into the complexities and sadnesses of adulthood. From his first days at Hogwarts, the young, green-eyed boy bore the burden of his destiny as a leader, coping with the expectations and duties of his role, and in this volume he is clearly more Henry V than Prince Hal, more King Arthur than young Wart: high-spirited war games of Quidditch have given way to real war, and Harry often wishes he were not the de facto leader of the Resistance movement, shouldering terrifying responsibilities, but an ordinary teenage boy — free to romance Ginny Weasley and hang out with his friends. Harry has already lost his parents, his godfather Sirius and his teacher Professor Dumbledore (all mentors he might have once received instruction from) and in this volume, the losses mount with unnerving speed: at least a half-dozen characters we have come to know die in these pages, and many others are wounded or tortured. Voldemort and his followers have infiltrated Hogwarts and the Ministry of Magic, creating havoc and terror in the Wizard and Muggle worlds alike, and the members of various populations — including elves, goblins and centaurs — are choosing sides. No wonder then that Harry often seems overwhelmed with disillusionment and doubt in the final installment of this seven-volume bildungsroman. He continues to struggle to control his temper, and as he and Ron and Hermione search for the missing Horcruxes (secret magical objects in which Voldemort has stashed parts of his soul, objects that Harry must destroy if he hopes to kill the evil lord), he literally enters a dark wood, in which he must do battle not only with the Death Eaters, but also with the temptations of hubris and despair. Harry’s weird psychic connection with Voldemort (symbolized by the lightning-bolt forehead scar he bears as a result of the Dark Lord’s attack on him as a baby) seems to have grown stronger too, giving him clues to Voldemort’s actions and whereabouts, even as it lures him ever closer to the dark side. One of the plot’s significant turning points concerns Harry’s decision on whether to continue looking for the Horcruxes — the mission assigned to him by the late Dumbledore — or to pursue the Hallows, three magical objects said to make their possessor the master of Death. Harry’s journey will propel him forward to a final showdown with his arch enemy, and also send him backward into the past, to the house in Godric’s Hollow where his parents died, to learn about his family history and the equally mysterious history of Dumbledore’s family. At the same time, he will be forced to ponder the equation between fraternity and independence, free will and fate, and to come to terms with his own frailties and those of others. Indeed, ambiguities proliferate throughout “The Deathly Hallows”: we are made to see that kindly Dumbledore, sinister Severus Snape and perhaps even the awful Muggle cousin Dudley Dursley may be more complicated than they initially seem, that all of them, like Harry, have hidden aspects to their personalities, and that choice — more than talent or predisposition — matters most of all. It is Ms. Rowling’s achievement in this series that she manages to make Harry both a familiar adolescent — coping with the banal frustrations of school and dating — and an epic hero, kin to everyone from the young King Arthur to Spider-Man and Luke Skywalker. This same magpie talent has enabled her to create a narrative that effortlessly mixes up allusions to Homer, Milton, Shakespeare and Kafka, with silly kid jokes about vomit-flavored candies, a narrative that fuses a plethora of genres (from the boarding-school novel to the detective story to the epic quest) into a story that could be Exhibit A in a Joseph Campbell survey of mythic archetypes. In doing so, J. K. Rowling has created a world as fully detailed as L. Frank Baum’s Oz or J. R. R. Tolkien’s Middle Earth, a world so minutely imagined in terms of its history and rituals and rules that it qualifies as an alternate universe, which may be one reason the “Potter” books have spawned such a passionate following and such fervent exegesis. With this volume, the reader realizes that small incidents and asides in earlier installments (hidden among a huge number of red herrings) create a breadcrumb trail of clues to the plot, that Ms. Rowling has fitted together the jigsaw-puzzle pieces of this long undertaking with Dickensian ingenuity and ardor. Objects and spells from earlier books — like the invisibility cloak, Polyjuice Potion, Dumbledore’s Pensieve and Sirius’s flying motorcycle — play important roles in this volume, and characters encountered before, like the house-elf Dobby and Mr. Ollivander the wandmaker, resurface, too. The world of Harry Potter is a place where the mundane and the marvelous, the ordinary and the surreal coexist. It’s a place where cars can fly and owls can deliver the mail, a place where paintings talk and a mirror reflects people’s innermost desires. It’s also a place utterly recognizable to readers, a place where death and the catastrophes of daily life are inevitable, and people’s lives are defined by love and loss and hope — the same way they are in our own mortal world. _________________ Back to top Display posts from previous: All Posts1 Day7 Days2 Weeks1 Month3 Months6 Months1 Year Oldest FirstNewest First         We moved to: http://allaboutbigbrother.forumotion.com/index.htm Forum Index -> Reading All times are GMT - 6 Hours Goto page 1, 2  Next Page 1 of 2   Jump to: Select a forum About this site----------------About this site  ANNOUNCEMENT----------------Site Announcements Big Brother All Stars General Discussion----------------Latest News Janelle and LucaJanelle DiscussionWill discussion and newsSCREENCAPSLinks Survivor China----------------The SurvivorsBroadcast EpisodesSPOILERS! Entertainment----------------Cooking and BakingTelevisionMovies & MusicReading Big Brother 8----------------TechnicalHouseguestsLive Feed DiscussionScreencaps Lounge----------------Lounge DiscussionHappy Birthday  You cannot post new topics in this forum You cannot reply to topics in this forum You cannot edit your posts in this forum You cannot delete your posts in this forum You cannot vote in polls in this forum © 2007-2008 Informe.com. 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