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Moodswinger · Moderator Joined: 03 Mar 2007 Posts: 5866

Was summed up all the rumors in the Nick and Dani thread about the two, but I am sure we have lots of interesting opinions from you ladies who have followed their story. Here is my GUESS (I really know nothing). The excitement about their relationship built while Daniele was still in the house. Nick got to see she had feeling for him as he did for her. The wrap party and the whirlwind of excitement, gifts from fans, media attention etc. was very distracting and not "real world" relationship stuff. The move across the country was also out of the ordinary, and for the most part it was just the two of them, so they didn't have family and friends to deal with. They get to LA, Dani has been trapped in the house and hasn't seen her friends, and both are apartment hunting. Real life starts interfering with their time together. At the last minute, Dick invites Dani to Europe with him, she goes, Nick's feeling get hurt and to make matters worse, she doesn't contact him while she is gone. He is mad, and take Jen and Zach up on the offer to go to the mall. Then she gets mad. Seems like both of them spend more time on the internet, then with each other. I predict more break ups and getting back together. But, I don't really see their personalities jiving.

charlottesweb · Posted: Sun Nov 25, 2007 9:56 am Post subject:

Since I was never into them at all I can't say too much other than a 21 yr old doesn't and shouldn't be ready to settle down with one person for the rest of her life..MO
I know...I know, you say, well you did....but that was in a different day and time and I was way more mature at 20 than my 25 yr old grandson is today. I shudder to think of him with a wife and child. Very Happy

Lori · Posted: Sun Nov 25, 2007 10:16 am Post subject:

Mood...I think your assessment is spot on.

jengalives · Delicious Joined: 19 Feb 2007 Posts: 137

I also agree with a lot of what Mood wrote. Dani did not really have time to decompress before going to MN for a week and then roadtripping back to Cali. She and Nick spent every second together from the time of the Really Awards until they got to CA, which was probably about 2 weeks straight w/o a break. I can see why Daniele would want time to settle in and reconnect with her friends, job and normal routine. Nick was able to do that before since he got evicted early. Also, Dani already has a life established in CA, whereas Nick had only her, so he was probably feeling lonely and "abandoned". Then the Europe trip with Dick meant another 2 week separation. Nick didn't handle that well at all, and I think he started doing certain things as a "get back" at Daniele, like agreeing to do the Dolphincrash shoot with Zach and Jen and accepting the invitation to do the Reality Cruise with all of the people Dani hates.

As Nick said, they've only been together 2 months; they shouldn't have this many problems. There were probably several factors involved, but I think the lack of time together was the deal breaker. And I think Nick is actually the one who broke it off. Dani seems way too devastated to be the dumper. His comment "No matter what I'll always love Daniele, and you guys know everything I said and did was real" makes me think he wants to make sure fans know that even though he broke up with Dani, he was never playing her.

It will be interesting to see if they get back together. In the house, they fought and made up all the time, but they were also trapped together and couldn't really avoid talking. Now they can. I can see Dani trying to reel him back in and Nick trying to avoid seeing Dani because he knows she is his weakness and he would probably cave.

I think they are both currently broken-hearted, and I wish them the best.
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Moodswinger · Moderator Joined: 03 Mar 2007 Posts: 5866

OK, I know we have Nickele fans that read this darn board. You guys need to give me the scoop. I find lots of dirt for this damn board!!! Laughing

What do you guys think happened? Who is the dumper and who is the dumpee?
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fendi_prada · Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2007 1:58 am Post subject:

Personally, I think Dani was the dumper and Nick was the dumpee. I think, because he had no one else in L.A., he expected her to spend more time with him, and after being in the BB house for so long, she wanted some freedom away from him afer the 24/7 in Minnesota and on their road trip to California. Also, she said she's not cut out for country living, and I don't think he's really cut out for the fast pace of L.A.

From reading Dani's online journal, I get the impression that she's feeling bad, but from Nick's latest chat, he seems to be the one who is really hurt. But then, what do I know?
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Bab$ · Quite Strong Joined: 24 Mar 2007 Posts: 59 Location: Ohio

The "trip" didn't help. That was supposed to be "their trip". But Dick stepped in and took it from Nick. Dick did that a lot in the house. He's very jealous of N/D together. He doesn't get it, that Nick is on his side.

Gimme · Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2007 4:42 pm Post subject:

jengalives · Delicious Joined: 19 Feb 2007 Posts: 137

As I've said before, I think Nick was the one to finally break it off. I also think Nick is hurting more than Dani right now, or at least he is more open to showing his hurt while Dani puts up a better front. I think he is so in love with her and it probably killed him to break it off, but I think it was a move made out of self-preservation. Nick always talked about how hurt he got in his last relationship after 3 years. I think he didn't want a repeat of that. Nick seemed so sure, so soon, that Dani was "the one". He was willing to give up anything for her and obviously planned a future with her. But Dani was probably unwilling to make the same promises or commitments so early on in the relationship (and I can't really blame her...she is 21 and they were only dating 2 months), so Nick probably thought it would be better to end things now than to pour his heart into this relationship for a year or two only to have Dani refuse to ever move to MN with him. I kind of always saw these two as a short-term thing because I think they have conflicting long-term goals.

I think Dani has a hard time understanding why Nick needs the "forever" right now. She has always said things like "we'll see what happens" and "we're taking it slow". In her mind, things were probably fine because she was putting into the relationship what she thought was enough. Her lj entries suggest that Nick wanted the perfect "fairy tale" and she had a more realistic view of what relationships are like, fights and all. I think she was pretty crushed when he broke it off, but based on some of her music selections (which I DO think have meaning) she has also gone through phases of "F you, I'm better off without you".

I think both of them have been holding out hope of some kind of reconciliation at some point; not sure if that's still the case, but I think it's weird that Dani hasn't acknowledged the break up yet, especially since people keep leaving annoying messages on her myspace. A simple "Unfortunately, things didn't work out but we'll always be friends" would suffice. Either she likes the speculation and attention (ala Will) or she isn't convinced it's over. I just hope they haven't been communicating passive-aggressively through myspace alone.

I don't know if they'll get back together, but I do think Nick will go back to L.A., at least for awhile longer. I think he's an impulsive person and says/does things without really thinking them through, and then later calms down and backtracks. He seemed really pissed about the reaction to him posting the pic of himself, Jen and Zach on his myspace. I think it really bothered him that people were questioning his intentions or his loyalty to Daniele. He deleted the Big Bear pics almost immediately and then abruptly told chatters he deleted his myspace and talked about not returning to L.A. I think/hope he was blowing a bit of smoke, but who knows?? If they're meant to be, they'll find their way back to each other. If not, at least they gave it a shot and won't have to live with "what ifs".
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NancyB · Site Admin Joined: 02 Feb 2007 Posts: 4909

jenga, I agree with your speculation. I think Nick broke it off.
Something happened that he couldn't abide. Perhaps Dani got in touch with her ex boyfriend. Who knows? I enjoyed them while it lasted.
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Issis · Strong Joined: 23 Mar 2007 Posts: 42

I too agree that Nick was the one to break it off.
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Hellataz · Unrepentant FAMEWHORE Joined: 20 Feb 2007 Posts: 545

Jenga that was a good assessment and probably pretty accurate given what is out there.

Despite what is going on, i know they both love each other, but I think both are very stubborn and there is a lot of hurt and pride standing in the way and it's too bad that it might be too much to get past cause they are great together.

And regardless of what happened i believe the core fans base will care for both Nick and Dani whether they are together or apart.
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Moodswinger · Moderator Joined: 03 Mar 2007 Posts: 5866

I agree. I think those that liked one, liked the other. I don't think it will be as devise as last year.
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Bab$ · Quite Strong Joined: 24 Mar 2007 Posts: 59 Location: Ohio

I do hope they can work it out, they seemed very good together. But, If not they will still be loved. We just love, love!